Natalee Holloway Left Carlos-n-Charlies With Deepak
In what was a controversial story at the time, it was reported that Natalee Holloway left Carlos-n-Charlies with Deepak Kalpoe and not Joran Van der 'Slut'. In addition to sources used from the first report, it has been confirmed through another independent witness that the report was in fact accurate.
In attempts to re-construct the time-line for the night of Natalee Holloway's disappearance, it now seems that she did leave first with Joran Van der Slut; however, the two did not walk off together immediately. At some point after most of Natalee's friends drifted away, Joran and Satish Kalpoe are thought to have left the front of the club, perhaps to return to Deepak's car. Natalee then went back inside the club very briefly before emerging with the elder Kalpoe brother, who, as previously reported, was said to have been holding her by the arm. That has been described as non-romantic in nature and more consistent with an effort to assist one as they walk.
At some point during that time period an unidentified Mountain Brook student is reported to have asked her if she was "Okay." It's believed she responded that she was. A short time after they disappeared around a corner, the three boys and Natalee Holloway came back through the immediate area, all within the car of Deepak Kalpoe. It's then that she is said to have rolled down her car window and called out some form of greeting to friends on the sidewalk.
At some point during that time period an unidentified Mountain Brook student is reported to have asked her if she was "Okay." It's believed she responded that she was. A short time after they disappeared around a corner, the three boys and Natalee Holloway came back through the immediate area, all within the car of Deepak Kalpoe. It's then that she is said to have rolled down her car window and called out some form of greeting to friends on the sidewalk.
SEARCH OF POND REVEALS NOTHING
LANDFILL WITNESS COMES FORWARD
LANDFILL WITNESS COMES FORWARD
In addition to the pond, which revealed nothing, authorities are now searching a landfill for the third time since a witness came forward shortly after Holloway disappeared. The witness claimed he saw more than one person dump into the landfill something he believes could have been a covered body.
CNN has learned from source that this witness also gave police a license tag number that reportedly belonged to a white pickup truck.
Here is an exerpt from the Fox News show 'On the Record' from Friday, July 29, 2005. This is an interview with Aruban Journalist, Jossy Mansur, who has been focused on the case from day one, and who has many details that are not shared with the American press.
CNN has learned from source that this witness also gave police a license tag number that reportedly belonged to a white pickup truck.
INTERVIEW WITH JOSSY MANSUR
Here is an exerpt from the Fox News show 'On the Record' from Friday, July 29, 2005. This is an interview with Aruban Journalist, Jossy Mansur, who has been focused on the case from day one, and who has many details that are not shared with the American press.
Jossy: I'll tell you exactly what he said. He told us that he saw a pickup with three men enter the dump. He saw 2 of the men get off, pick up a black garbage, plastic bag. Two of the men carried it. Some kind of blond hair fell from the bag, in other words, stuck out from the back. They placed this bag over where there was a lot of rubble, bags. And then they picked up a small baby pool, you know those plastic pools that babies bathe in. And then they put it over that bag that they put over there. Now this afternoon it so happens that they did find that item of interest, which is that pool. And tomorrow they're going to dig very deep in there to find out if this guy is telling the truth. If he is telling the truth then they must find that bag that he said that he saw those people place there.
Martha : Why didn't this person come forward sooner with story?
Jossy: Because everybody here is scared of this story. This story has gone totally out of proportion. It has become high profile, especially in the US. And people don't normally want to be involved in anything that smells of anything like a crime, or a murder, or whatever; because there's a lot of personal implications for them -- to be interrogated by the police, held there for hours, to be taken to court and act as witness. So it is very hard for people who don't have any kind of experience with this sort of thing to just come forward and say what they saw. But this story has been going around for some time... tomorrow we will find out more.
Martha: Tell us more about this pool... It seems like if they covered it up with that they would have gotten to a body fairly quickly after they uncovered that pool.
Jossy: Not necessarily -- because as the weeks passed much other rubble has been thrown on top of it and the tractors have been pushing everything together. So that wouldn't be necessarily true.... And they have to be looking in the coming 2-3 days all around this pool that they found today.... It's a time consuming, a physical job. They have to look at everything. It is a Titanic job.
Martha: How much impact does this reward money have on these witnesses coming forward now? ... A million dollar reward?
Jossy: As far as I'm concerned, none. Because these witnesses, they don't come forward when these rewards were posted. They've been around quite some time before that.
Martha : Do these witnesses know each other at all.?
Jossy: Absolutely not. Then you have the other witness that says that by the Holiday Inn he saw practically the same thing. He saw a white pick up with 3 male occupants and that they were dragging some kind of a body, of a lady, and put it in the back of that white pick up. And then drive away.... But these people don't know each other. They are very far apart. And they both seem to see the same pickup with the same three characters in there.
Martha: But doesn't it seem curious to you that they would come forward in a similar span of time to say that they saw these similar things?
Jossy: I don't know about the span of time or how they are related to each other time wise. What I do know is at least the one witness at the landfill is a pretty serious witness. I think that the police have some kind of trust in his reliability as they wouldn't be spending all of this time, effort and money going so totally over every single heap of garbage that they can find there.
Martha: How specifically do they identify the people they saw?
Jossy: They don't identify the three. I didn't hear anything about that. They identified another man that was standing outside of the cyclone fence. But I would hesitate to even mention his name because unless we have some kind of proof - that we will get in the next two days -- it wouldn't be fair to anyone to mention names.
Martha : Why didn't this person come forward sooner with story?
Jossy: Because everybody here is scared of this story. This story has gone totally out of proportion. It has become high profile, especially in the US. And people don't normally want to be involved in anything that smells of anything like a crime, or a murder, or whatever; because there's a lot of personal implications for them -- to be interrogated by the police, held there for hours, to be taken to court and act as witness. So it is very hard for people who don't have any kind of experience with this sort of thing to just come forward and say what they saw. But this story has been going around for some time... tomorrow we will find out more.
Martha: Tell us more about this pool... It seems like if they covered it up with that they would have gotten to a body fairly quickly after they uncovered that pool.
Jossy: Not necessarily -- because as the weeks passed much other rubble has been thrown on top of it and the tractors have been pushing everything together. So that wouldn't be necessarily true.... And they have to be looking in the coming 2-3 days all around this pool that they found today.... It's a time consuming, a physical job. They have to look at everything. It is a Titanic job.
Martha: How much impact does this reward money have on these witnesses coming forward now? ... A million dollar reward?
Jossy: As far as I'm concerned, none. Because these witnesses, they don't come forward when these rewards were posted. They've been around quite some time before that.
Martha : Do these witnesses know each other at all.?
Jossy: Absolutely not. Then you have the other witness that says that by the Holiday Inn he saw practically the same thing. He saw a white pick up with 3 male occupants and that they were dragging some kind of a body, of a lady, and put it in the back of that white pick up. And then drive away.... But these people don't know each other. They are very far apart. And they both seem to see the same pickup with the same three characters in there.
Martha: But doesn't it seem curious to you that they would come forward in a similar span of time to say that they saw these similar things?
Jossy: I don't know about the span of time or how they are related to each other time wise. What I do know is at least the one witness at the landfill is a pretty serious witness. I think that the police have some kind of trust in his reliability as they wouldn't be spending all of this time, effort and money going so totally over every single heap of garbage that they can find there.
Martha: How specifically do they identify the people they saw?
Jossy: They don't identify the three. I didn't hear anything about that. They identified another man that was standing outside of the cyclone fence. But I would hesitate to even mention his name because unless we have some kind of proof - that we will get in the next two days -- it wouldn't be fair to anyone to mention names.
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