September 26, 2005

JORAN TALKS TO CURRENT AFFAIR



JORAN: THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF A SOCIOPATH


Taken from Scared Monkeys

While talking with “A Current Affair” in Holland, Joran van der Sloot denied responsibility as to why Natalee Holloway is missing. The interview is scheduled to air Monday. Joran Van der Sloot admits initially lying to investigators but states that Natalee was fine when he left her on the beach.

A suspect in the case of an Alabama teenager missing in Aruba admits he lied about the last time he saw her on the night she vanished, but he insists she was fine, according to a television interview. Joran van der Sloot, 18, was one of three men jailed this summer in Natalee Holloway’s May 30 disappearance. He talked to a producer for “A Current Affair” in Holland, where he is attending college. The interview is scheduled to air Monday. Holloway was last seen leaving a bar with van der Sloot and two brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe. The three young men were released on the condition they remain available to police for questioning.

In the interview with A Current Affair Joran Van der Sloot claims the relationship was consensual and he went so far to say that he even told Natalee Holloway that they had to leave; however, “she wanted to stay all night”.

He insists the night ended when he left her alone on the beach. “She wanted to stay here the whole night. I told her no I had to go. I even lifted her up to carry her back to the hotel, and she told me to put her down,” he said in the interview.

So now the story is that Joran Van der Sloot being the gentleman that he is was insisting that they both leave and it was Natalee Holloway, a girl who cannot defend her self’s fault. Joran Van der Sloot also went on to say,

“Obviously she was drunk. I had stuff to drink, too,” van der Sloot said. “She wanted to go with me. I wanted to go with her. It was totally consensual.”

Earth to Joran, if someone is that drunk it can’t be consensual. Remember the part about going in and out of consciousness? Please tell me that someone during this “Current Affair” interview is going to say the following: Joran, you have lied through your teeth about everything, including the night that you left Natalee Holloway off at the Holiday Inn. You had concocted the lie with the Kalpoe brothers and most likely Paulus Van der Sloot as well. WHY ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING NOW?

Also, you and the Kalpoe brothers have now admitted to all having sex with a girl that was drunk and that you claim to have been consensual, WHERE IS SHE THEN? You left a drunk girl on the beach after all you had conveniently enough consensual sex with a girl that was so drunk she probably could not have consented to anything.


Joran, any other lies you would like to tell the world?



My amateur diagnosis on Joran Van Der Sloot's mental illnesses:



(AAPD), or dissocial personality disorder, is a personality disorder which is often characterised by antisocial and impulsive behaviour. APD is generally (if controversially) considered to be the same as, or similar to, the disorders known as psychopathic or sociopathic personality disorder. Approximately 3% of men and 1% of women have some form of antisocial personality disorder (source: DSM-IV). The word antisocial is often misused to refer to someone with social anxiety. It is hypothesized that many high achievers exhibit APD characteristics.

Research has shown that individuals with APD are indifferent to the possibility of physical pain or many punishments, and; this may explain their apparent disregard show no indications that they experience fear when so threatened for the consequences of their actions, and their lack of empathy when others are suffering.

Central to understanding psychopaths is that they do not appear to experience true human emotions, or at least, they do not appear to experience a full range of human emotions. This can explain the lack of empathy for the suffering of others, since they cannot experience emotion associated with either empathy or suffering. Risk-seeking behavior and substance abuse may be attempts to fill the emotional void. The rage exhibited by psychopaths and the anxiety associated with certain types of ASPD may represent the limit of emotion experienced, or they may be physiological responses without analogy to emotion experienced by others.


Diagnostic criteria (DSM-IV-TR)

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, a widely used manual for diagnosing mental and behavioral disorders defines antisocial personality disorder as a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others occurring since age 15 years, as indicated by three (or more) of the following:

  1. failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrestdeceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases
  2. cconning others for personal profit or pleasure
  3. impulsivity or failure to plan ahead
  4. irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults
  5. reckless disregard for safety of self or others
  6. consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain steady work or honor financial obligations
  7. lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another


(NPD) is a personality disorder that is characterized by extreme feelings of self-importance, a high need for admiration, and a lack of empathy. Narcissistic personality disorder can be considered to be a pathological form of narcissism. It is estimated that 0.7-1% of the general population is afflicted with narcissistic personality disorder. Most people with narcissistic personality disorder (50-75%, according to the DSM) are men.

Narcissistic personality disorder is often diagnosed (comorbid) with other mental health disorders, especially substance abuse and impulsive and reckless behaviors.

People with narcissistic defenses are either cerebral (derive their narcissistic supply from their intelligence or academic achievements)— or somatic (derive their narcissistic supply from their physique, exercise, physical or sexual prowess and "conquests").

Factor 1: Aggressive narcissism

  • Glibness/superficial charm
  • Grandiose sense of self-worth
  • Pathological lying
  • Cunning/manipulative
  • Lack of remorse or guilt
  • Shallow affect
  • Callous/lack of empathy
  • Failure to accept responsibility for own actions

Dissocial Personality Disorder

(F60.2), usually coming to attention because of a gross disparity between behaviour and the prevailing social norms, and characterized by:

  • callous unconcern for the feelings of others;
  • gross and persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social norms, rules and obligations;
  • incapacity to maintain enduring relationships, though having no difficulty in establishing them;
  • very low tolerance to frustration and a low threshold for discharge of aggression, including violence;
  • incapacity to experience guilt or to profit from experience, particularly punishment;
  • marked proneness to blame others, or to offer plausible rationalizations, for the behaviour that has brought the patient into conflict with society.


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